{"id":1128,"date":"2011-08-09T09:15:58","date_gmt":"2011-08-09T08:15:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/?p=1128"},"modified":"2011-08-09T10:39:34","modified_gmt":"2011-08-09T09:39:34","slug":"ladislav-jakl-v-ceske-televizi-o-chystanem-poulicnim-predvadeni-se-homosexualu-v-praze","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/?p=1128","title":{"rendered":"Ladislav Jakl v \u010cesk\u00e9 televizi o chystan\u00e9m pouli\u010dn\u00edm p\u0159edv\u00e1d\u011bn\u00ed se homosexu\u00e1l\u016f v Praze"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u010cT 24 Spory o konzervatismus Moder\u00e1tor:\u00a0Jakub \u017delezn\u00fd Host:\u00a0Ladislav  Jakl<\/p>\n<p>(obsahuje video)<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Moder\u00e1tor:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Diskuse kolem dopisu velvyslanc\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed podpo\u0159ili pra\u017esk\u00fd pochod osob s gay a lesbickou orientac\u00ed nabrala dnes na s\u00edle. Proti tomu, \u017ee z\u00e1\u0161titu nad akc\u00ed p\u0159evzal prim\u00e1tor Prahy Bohuslav Svoboda, se u\u017e p\u0159ed p\u00e1r dny postavil hradn\u00ed vicekancl\u00e9\u0159 Petr H\u00e1jek. Dnes se k n\u011bmu p\u0159idal i Ladislav  B\u00e1tora z iniciativy DOST. Velvyslance 11 zem\u00ed, p\u016fsob\u00edc\u00edch v Praze o v\u00edkendu za jejich postoj kritizoval i ministr zahrani\u010d\u00ed Karel Schwarzenberg. A i kdy\u017e maj\u00ed \u010dasto rozd\u00edln\u00fd n\u00e1zor,tak s jeho n\u00e1zorem dnes vyj\u00e1d\u0159il souhlas dokonce i prezident V\u00e1clav Klaus. Mimo jin\u00e9 \u0159ekl nebo napsal: Neodvedu si p\u0159edstavit, \u017ee by si jak\u00fdkoli n\u00e1\u0161 velvyslanec dovolil formou petice zasahovat do vnitropolitick\u00e9 diskuze v\u00a0jak\u00e9koli demokratick\u00e9 zemi sv\u011bta. Na\u0161\u00edm hostem je te\u010f Ladislav Jakl, \u0159editel politick\u00e9ho odboru Kancel\u00e1\u0159e prezidenta republiky, pane \u0159editeli, zdrav\u00edm v\u00e1s, dobr\u00fd ve\u010der.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Host:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dobr\u00fd ve\u010der z\u00a0pra\u017esk\u00e9ho Kl\u00e1rova<\/p>\n<p><strong>Moder\u00e1tor:<\/strong><br \/>\nPro\u010d by velvyslanci, pane \u0159editeli, nemohli v zemi sv\u00e9ho p\u016fsoben\u00ed podpo\u0159it n\u011bjakou aktivitu?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Host:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>J\u00e1 si nemysl\u00edm, \u017ee tito velvyslanci podporovali n\u011bjakou aktivitu. Oni se naopak v\u016f\u010di n\u011b\u010demu ohrazovali. Ohrazovali se &#8211; na z\u00e1klad\u011b b\u016fhv\u00ed jak\u00fdch informac\u00ed &#8211; proti hypotetick\u00e9mu \u00fatlaku, kter\u00fd tady homosexu\u00e1lov\u00e9 v\u00a0\u010cesk\u00e9 republice podle nich asi z\u0159ejm\u011b za\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed. Oni se vyslovili za pr\u00e1vo homosexu\u00e1l\u016f po\u0159\u00e1dat n\u011bjakou akci, jako kdyby toto pr\u00e1vo kdokoli homosexu\u00e1l\u016fm u n\u00e1s up\u00edral. J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee toto skute\u010dn\u011b by si \u010desk\u00fd velvyslanec v Rakousku, N\u011bmecku, Francii, v jak\u00e9koli civilizovan\u00e9 zemi absolutn\u011b nedovolil, aby se ohrazoval v\u016f\u010di v\u00fdroku n\u011bjak\u00e9 tamn\u00ed autority. Dokonce je\u0161t\u011b na z\u00e1klad\u011b \u0161patn\u00fdch informac\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Moder\u00e1tor:<br \/>\n<\/strong>Ale je p\u0159ece zcela b\u011b\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee velvyslanci se zapojuj\u00ed do \u017eivota zem\u011b, v n\u00ed\u017e p\u016fsob\u00ed, \u017ee jsou sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed n\u011bjak\u00e9ho politick\u00e9ho a spole\u010densk\u00e9ho diskurzu t\u00e9 zem\u011b. Pro\u010d je pr\u00e1v\u011b tohle a ne t\u0159eba jin\u00e9 velvyslaneck\u00e9 aktivity t\u00edm, co je tak kritizov\u00e1no, t\u0159eba i panen prezidentem. Pro\u010d pr\u00e1v\u011b tohle?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Host:<br \/>\n<\/strong>Pane redaktore, j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, jestli se m\u011b pt\u00e1te v\u00e1\u017en\u011b, nebo jestli to v\u00edte nebo jestli to nev\u00edte. P\u0159ece v\u016fbec nejde o projev zapojen\u00ed se do \u017eivota. Oni se ohradili proti v\u00fdrok\u016fm ob\u010dansk\u00e9 iniciativy, ohradili se proti v\u00fdrok\u016fm jednoho \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edka z prezidentsk\u00e9 kancel\u00e1\u0159e a vyvolali t\u00edm dojem, \u017ee komusi v\u00a0\u010cesk\u00e9 republice jsou up\u00edr\u00e1na n\u011bjak\u00e1 pr\u00e1va. Krom\u011b toho, \u017ee se t\u00edm vyslovili jm\u00e9nem autority st\u00e1tu, kter\u00fd tady zastupuj\u00ed, tak\u00e9 t\u00edm dali najevo, jak\u00e9 maj\u00ed sm\u00fd\u0161len\u00ed o \u010cesk\u00e9 republice. A jak z\u0159ejm\u011b, na z\u00e1klad\u011b velmi pom\u00fdlen\u00fdch informac\u00ed, reportuj\u00ed sv\u00e9 dojmy a p\u0159edstavy do sv\u00fdch zem\u00ed. \u00a0A to n\u00e1m nem\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt jedno. Ani V\u00e1m to nem\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt jedno.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Moder\u00e1tor:<br \/>\n<\/strong>Promi\u0148te, ale to, co \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te, neukazuje to naopak i to, co \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te i ta reakce pana prezidenta nebo pana B\u00e1tory, \u017ee velvyslanci naopak t\u00edm sv\u00fdm prohl\u00e1\u0161en\u00edm nebo \u0159ekn\u011bme podporou jedn\u00e9 men\u0161iny mo\u017en\u00e1 pr\u00e1v\u011b tro\u0161ku uhodili h\u0159eb\u00ed\u010dek na hlavi\u010dku, kdy\u017e se pr\u00e1v\u011b p\u0159i tomto t\u00e9matu ozvaly pr\u00e1v\u011b tyto hlasy, kter\u00e9 jejich krok odsuzuj\u00ed?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Host:<\/strong><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong>V\u00edte, je dob\u0159e, \u017ee se o tomto p\u0159edv\u00e1d\u011bn\u00ed homosexu\u00e1ln\u00edch aktivit mluv\u00ed. Je to ur\u010dit\u011b dob\u0159e, mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je celkem legitimn\u00ed, kdy\u017e se to n\u011bkomu nel\u00edb\u00ed, nap\u0159. mn\u011b. Mn\u011b se nejen nel\u00edb\u00ed, \u017ee prim\u00e1tor tohoto kr\u00e1sn\u00e9ho slavn\u00e9ho m\u011bsta jm\u00e9nem sv\u00e9 autority, jm\u00e9nem sv\u00e9ho \u00fa\u0159adu vyslovil z\u00e1\u0161titu nad t\u00edmto p\u0159edv\u00e1d\u011bn\u00edm se homosexu\u00e1ln\u00edch aktivit. Mn\u011b se nel\u00edb\u00ed samotn\u00e9 toto p\u0159edv\u00e1d\u011bn\u00ed homosexu\u00e1ln\u00edch aktivit, proto\u017ee mn\u011b se nel\u00edb\u00ed p\u0159edv\u00e1d\u011bn\u00ed sexu\u00e1ln\u00edch aktivit. J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee sexualita je n\u00e1dhern\u00e1, \u00fa\u017easn\u00e1 a p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm intimn\u00ed v\u011bc a nem\u011bla by se manifestovat.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Moder\u00e1tor:<br \/>\n<\/strong>Promi\u0148te, pane Jakle, v\u00fdraz homosexu\u00e1l, t\u0159eba v\u00a0tomto rozhovoru, pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1te jenom vy. O sexu\u00e1ln\u00edch aktivit\u00e1ch mluv\u00edte jenom vy, ale dob\u0159e. V\u00a0tom prohl\u00e1\u0161en\u00ed se je\u0161t\u011b pan prezident oh\u00e1n\u00ed svobodou slova. Kde je potom svoboda slova on\u011bch velvyslanc\u016f, abychom se zase vr\u00e1tili k\u00a0tomu t\u00e9matu, n\u00e1zoru t\u011bch 11 ambasador\u016f?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Host:<\/strong><br \/>\nP\u0159ece ur\u010dit\u011b vy, stejn\u011b tak dob\u0159e jako div\u00e1ci, kte\u0159\u00ed se d\u00edvaj\u00ed na tento po\u0159ad, dob\u0159e v\u011bd\u00ed, \u017ee tito velvyslanci ne\u0159ekli: j\u00e9, to je pr\u00edma, bude n\u011bco hezk\u00e9ho, barevn\u00e9ho, n\u011bkoho to mo\u017en\u00e1 pohor\u0161\u00ed, ale my se budeme dob\u0159e bavit, a p\u0159isp\u011bli t\u00edm do n\u011bjak\u00e9 debaty vnitrospole\u010densk\u00e9. Oni se vyslovili velmi bojovn\u011b s\u00a0c\u00edlem vyvolat spole\u010densk\u00fd \u00fatok na ty, kte\u0159\u00ed zapochybovali o tom, jestli je vhodn\u00e9 nebo nen\u00ed vhodn\u00e9, \u017ee pra\u017esk\u00fd prim\u00e1tor t\u00e9to akci poskytl svoji spole\u010denskou podporu a z\u00e1\u0161titu, a kte\u0159\u00ed maj\u00ed na to n\u011bjak\u00fd kritick\u00fd ohlas. Oni vyslovili n\u00e1zor, \u017ee se t\u00edm projevuje n\u011bjak\u00e1 tolerance. V\u00edte, spoustu v\u011bc\u00ed mohu tolerovat kolem sebe, rozhodn\u011b je velmi m\u00e1lo v\u011bc\u00ed, kter\u00e9 bych, kdybych n\u00e1hodou m\u011bl tu moc, cht\u011bl v \u017eivot\u011b zakazovat. Ale to mi nebere pr\u00e1vo, abych spousty v\u011bci kritizoval, vyjad\u0159oval nad nimi nelibost a tito velvyslanci, jako kdyby cht\u011bli up\u00edrat pr\u00e1vo vyjad\u0159ovat n\u011bkomu nelibost. A to na na\u0161\u00ed dom\u00e1c\u00ed vnitropolitick\u00e9 sc\u00e9n\u011b. A dokonce horovali, aby tady n\u011bkomu nebyla up\u00edr\u00e1na n\u011bjak\u00e1 pr\u00e1va. J\u00e1 mysl\u00edm, \u017ee u n\u00e1s v\u00a0\u010cesk\u00e9 republice jsou pr\u00e1va l\u00e9pe o\u0161et\u0159ena ne\u017e v\u00a0mnoh\u00fdch zem\u00edch, za kter\u00e9 oni mluv\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Moder\u00e1tor:<\/strong><br \/>\nPoj\u010fme k\u00a0posledn\u00ed v\u011bci. V posledn\u00ed dob\u011b se zd\u00e1, \u017ee se v\u00fdrazn\u011b aktivizuje skupina lid\u00ed kolem iniciativy D.O.S.T., dost\u00e1v\u00e1 se j\u00ed i podpory od prezidenta republiky Klause i od jeho spolupracovn\u00edk\u016f. Nebylo by v\u00fdhodn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, f\u00e9rov\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, mo\u017en\u00e1 i pro tuto skupinu lid\u00ed transparentn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, aby se p\u0159etransformovala v\u00a0politickou stranu? A to je p\u0159ece i teze pana prezidenta Klause, \u017ee standardn\u00ed politick\u00fd \u017eivot by se m\u011bl, te\u010f ho samoz\u0159ejm\u011b tro\u0161ku parafr\u00e1zuji, ale \u017ee by se m\u011bl odehr\u00e1vat \u0159ekn\u011bme v mantinelech standardn\u00edch i stranick\u00fdch struktur?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Host:<\/strong><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong>J\u00e1 mysl\u00edm, \u017ee iniciativa DOST m\u00e1 4 \u010dleny, a pokud v\u00edm, pak existuje n\u011bkolik set signat\u00e1\u0159\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed podporuj\u00ed my\u0161lenky, j\u00e1 jsem jeden z\u00a0nich. Nev\u00edm, jak 4 lid\u00e9 se budou p\u0159em\u011b\u0148ovat v\u00a0n\u011bjakou politickou s\u00edlu. Existuje tu spousta jin\u00fdch platforem my\u0161lenkov\u00fdch, n\u00e1zorov\u00fdch a j zvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00ed, \u017ee v\u011bt\u0161inov\u00fdm m\u00e9di\u00edm vad\u00ed zrovna tato. Vy jste vyslovil tezi, \u017ee \u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>Moder\u00e1tor:<\/strong><br \/>\nPo\u010dkejte, rozhodn\u011b j\u00e1 jsem nevyslovil \u017e\u00e1dnou tezi, na\u0161emu m\u00e9diu ur\u010dit\u011b nic nevad\u00ed. J\u00e1 se v\u00e1s jenom zcela standardn\u011b pt\u00e1m, jestli by nebylo standardn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, i s ohledem na my\u0161lenky prezidenta V\u00e1clava Klause nebo na jeho teze o tom stranictv\u00ed, jestli by nebylo transparentn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed zalo\u017eit politickou stranu? Proto se na to pt\u00e1m.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Host:<\/strong><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong>Zeptejte se p\u00e1n\u016f z DOST. To nen\u00ed ot\u00e1zka pro m\u011b, kter\u00fd jsem signat\u00e1\u0159em jejich z\u00e1kladn\u00edho prohl\u00e1\u0161en\u00ed a souhlas\u00edm s\u00a0n\u00edm. Ale nen\u00ed to pravda, \u017ee jste nevyslovil tezi, vy jste vyslovil tezi, \u017ee se aktivizuj\u00ed. Oni jsou aktivn\u00ed cel\u00e1 l\u00e9ta a byli tak\u00e9 mnohem aktivn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e dnes. Po\u0159\u00e1dali mnohateshlav\u00e9 demonstrace, kter\u00fdch si m\u00e9dia v\u016fbec nev\u0161\u00edmala.<strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Moder\u00e1tor:<\/strong><br \/>\n\u0158ekl bych, \u017ee je o nich te\u010f v\u00fdrazn\u011b sly\u0161et.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Host:<\/strong><br \/>\nTe\u010f jsou siln\u011bj\u0161\u00ed pokusy n\u011bjak skandalizovat a ok\u0159ikovat je a uml\u010dovat. J\u00e1 bych \u0159ekl, \u017ee se te\u010f se sp\u00ed\u0161 aktivizuj\u00ed ti, kte\u0159\u00ed jim cht\u011bj\u00ed \u0161l\u00e1pnout na krk.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Moder\u00e1tor:<\/strong><br \/>\nTak my rozhodn\u011b nikoho neskandalizujeme, my se pouze pt\u00e1me, d\u011bkuji, \u017ee jste odpov\u00eddal na moje ot\u00e1zky, pane Jakle. Nashledanou.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Host:<\/strong><br \/>\nJ\u00e1 v\u00e1m d\u011bkuji za ot\u00e1zky. 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