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LADISLAV<\/strong> JAKL<\/strong> A VLADIM\u00cdR JUST \u2013 zjednodu\u0161en\u011b \u0159e\u010deno \u2013 pat\u0159\u00ed k opa\u010dn\u00fdm t\u00e1bor\u016fm p\u0159i prob\u00edhaj\u00edc\u00edm sporu o k\u016frovce na \u0160umav\u011b. Z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na ka\u017ed\u00e9m z n\u00e1s, kter\u00fd ze sv\u011bt\u016f obou mu\u017e\u016f je n\u00e1m bli\u017e\u0161\u00ed: sv\u011bt zast\u00e1nce vn\u00edm\u00e1n\u00ed \u0160umavy jako m\u00edsta, na n\u011bm\u017e se m\u00e1 hospoda\u0159it a \u017e\u00edt. Nebo sv\u011bt \u010dlov\u011bka, kter\u00fd raz\u00ed heslo A\u0165 si p\u0159\u00edroda porad\u00ed, jak um\u00ed.<\/p>\n

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Na \u0160umav\u011b v letech 2009 a 2010 dramaticky narostl objem vyk\u00e1cen\u00fdch strom\u016f bez viditeln\u00fdch protest\u016f. Jak si vysv\u011btlujete, \u017ee k odporu aktivist\u016f doch\u00e1z\u00ed a\u017e letos?<\/p>\n

Ladislav<\/strong> Jakl<\/strong>: Proto\u017ee tito aktivist\u00e9 jsou u\u017eite\u010dn\u00fdmi idioty z\u00e1jmov\u00fdch skupin. Nyn\u00ed doporu\u010duj\u00ed t\u011b\u017ebu na okraj\u00edch parku m\u00edsto v jeho j\u00e1dru. Pro\u010d asi? Proto\u017ee v bezz\u00e1sahov\u00fdch z\u00f3n\u00e1ch se jen k\u00e1c\u00ed kv\u016fli ochran\u011b porost\u016f, ale d\u0159evo z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1 le\u017eet. M\u00e9dia v\u011b\u0159\u00ed zelen\u00fdm extremist\u016fm, kdy\u017e veden\u00ed parku spojuj\u00ed s byznysem. P\u0159itom sami zelen\u00ed extremist\u00e9 podivn\u00e9mu byznysu slou\u017e\u00ed, zat\u00edmco nov\u00e9 veden\u00ed parku chr\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159\u00edrodu.<\/p>\n

Vladim\u00edr Just:<\/strong> Medi\u00e1ln\u00ed m\u00fdtus \u010d\u00edslo jedna. Pokud k t\u00e9to informaci nedod\u00e1te, KDE se za d\u0159\u00edv\u011bj\u0161\u00edho veden\u00ed, kter\u00e9 se muselo vyrovn\u00e1vat s n\u00e1sledky hurik\u00e1nu Kyrill, k\u00e1celo, je to maten\u00ed ve\u0159ejnosti. Minul\u00e9 veden\u00ed tak\u0159ka v\u00fdhradn\u011b k\u00e1celo JEN ve 2.a 3. z\u00f3n\u00e1ch, nikoli v j\u00e1drov\u00fdch z\u00f3n\u00e1ch a v nov\u011b p\u0159ipojen\u00fdch bezz\u00e1sahov\u00fdch \u00fazem\u00edch (horsk\u00e9 smr\u010diny, podm\u00e1\u010den\u00e9 smr\u010diny, okraje slat\u00ed), kv\u016fli nim\u017e byl N\u00e1rodn\u00ed park \u0160umava z\u0159\u00edzen. A pokud se v\u00fdjime\u010dn\u011b zasahovalo, pak si k tomu p\u0159edch\u016fdci Str\u00e1sk\u00e9ho v\u010das vy\u0159\u00eddili pot\u0159ebn\u00e9 v\u00fdjimky ze z\u00e1kona. To Str\u00e1sk\u00fd neodpustiteln\u011b neud\u011blal, a\u010d m\u011bl na to \u010das od leto\u0161n\u00edho \u00fanora. Prvn\u00ed bod, ve kter\u00e9m tot\u00e1ln\u011b selhal jako mana\u017eer.<\/p>\n

Co si mysl\u00edte o obvin\u011bn\u00ed, \u017ee Jan Str\u00e1sk\u00fd chce k\u00e1cet kv\u016fli d\u0159eva\u0159sk\u00e9 lobby?<\/p>\n

Ladislav<\/strong> Jakl<\/strong>: Je to podobn\u00e9 jako nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed marketingov\u00fd \u00fasp\u011bch v d\u011bjin\u00e1ch. Je j\u00edm tvrzen\u00ed Raku\u0161an\u016f, \u017ee Hitler byl N\u011bmec a Mozart Raku\u0161an. I v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b Str\u00e1sk\u00e9ho je to p\u0159esn\u011b obr\u00e1cen\u011b.<\/p>\n

Vladim\u00edr Just:<\/strong> Odpov\u00edm slovy \u0159editele Ekologick\u00e9ho pr\u00e1vn\u00edho servisu Pavla France: „Ve skute\u010dnosti nejde o k\u016frovce, ale o 15 miliard K\u010d ve d\u0159ev\u011b, kter\u00e9 na \u0160umav\u011b jsou.“ Aby uchr\u00e1nil bezcennou smrkovou monokulturu „dole“, ni\u010d\u00ed Str\u00e1sk\u00fd to nejcenn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed \u2013 horskou smr\u010dinu \u2013 „naho\u0159e“. Nejde v\u0161ak jen o d\u0159evo, jsou tu i developersk\u00e9 z\u00e1jmy, spekulace vlivn\u00fdch \u0161umavsk\u00fdch podnikatel\u016f s pozemky typu pana Tali\u00e1na, fitcentra, lanovk\u00e1\u0159i, cel\u00fd ten \u0161umavsk\u00fd „Disneyland“. Tomu v\u0161emu, v\u010detn\u011b t\u00e9 d\u0159eva\u0159sk\u00e9 lobby, samoz\u0159ejm\u011b ka\u017ed\u00fd n\u00e1rodn\u00ed park jako nejvy\u0161\u0161\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e1 forma ochrany p\u0159\u00edrody na zem\u011bkouli stoj\u00ed v cest\u011b. V\u00e1clav Klaus se vyj\u00e1d\u0159il, \u017ee si chce jednou sjet sjezdovku na Smr\u010din\u011b, p\u0159\u00edstupnou i z \u010desk\u00e9 strany (nyn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed 1. z\u00f3na). A tent\u00fd\u017e V\u00e1clav Klaus, podle samotn\u00e9ho vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00ed Str\u00e1sk\u00e9ho, jej n\u011bkolikr\u00e1t p\u0159emlouval, aby tu funkci vzal a dot\u00e1hl svou protiparkovou k\u0159\u00ed\u017eovou v\u00fdpravu do konce.
\nTo je druh\u00e9 mana\u017eersk\u00e9 selh\u00e1n\u00ed \u2013 \u017ee Str\u00e1sk\u00fd jako \u010dlen v\u00fdb\u011brov\u00e9 komise na \u0161\u00e9fa NP\u0160, je\u017e p\u0159edem vy\u0159adila v\u0161echny, kdo nem\u011bli lesnick\u00e9 nebo p\u0159\u00edrodov\u011bdn\u00e9 vzd\u011bl\u00e1n\u00ed a praxi, nevy\u0159adil s\u00e1m sebe. Takov\u00fd nedostatek soudnosti a sebereflexe je u vrcholov\u00e9ho mana\u017eera fat\u00e1ln\u00edm nedopat\u0159en\u00edm. A dnes vid\u00edme n\u00e1sledky. M\u00edsto aby p\u0159inesl na \u0160umavu sm\u00edr, vnesl sem v\u00e1lku.<\/p>\n

Berete ve sporu o k\u00e1cen\u00ed \u0160umavu jako celek, nebo se maj\u00ed v p\u0159\u00edstupu rozli\u0161ovat jednotliv\u00e9 oblasti? A pro\u010d?<\/p>\n

Ladislav<\/strong> Jakl<\/strong>: M\u016fj n\u00e1zor nereprezentuje ani jedna strana sporu. Podle mne je t\u0159eba park zru\u0161it a vr\u00e1tit se k norm\u00e1ln\u00edmu hospoda\u0159en\u00ed. Ale dokud tomu tak nen\u00ed, pak alespo\u0148 chra\u0148me \u0161umavskou p\u0159\u00edrodu p\u0159ed dopady zni\u010duj\u00edc\u00edho experimentu, co\u017e p\u0159esn\u011b chce sv\u00fdm selektivn\u00edm p\u0159\u00edstupem \u0159editel Str\u00e1sk\u00fd. Zelen\u00ed extremist\u00e9 cht\u011bj\u00ed pod z\u00e1minkou um\u011bl\u00e9ho vytvo\u0159en\u00ed pralesa z centr\u00e1ln\u00ed \u010d\u00e1sti parku vyk\u00e1cet v\u0161e kolem n\u011bj. A to u\u017e nebude d\u0159evo, kter\u00e9 se nech\u00e1 le\u017eet, to se prod\u00e1.<\/p>\n

Vladim\u00edr Just:<\/strong> Prv\u00e1 \u010d\u00e1st va\u0161\u00ed ot\u00e1zky je medi\u00e1ln\u00ed m\u00fdtus \u010d\u00edslo 2. Hamletovsk\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka k\u00e1cet, \u010di nek\u00e1cet? je absolutn\u00ed pitomost, medi\u00e1ln\u00ed demence sv\u011bd\u010d\u00edc\u00ed o tom, \u017ee ti, kdo ji kladou, nemaj\u00ed nejz\u00e1kladn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed pon\u011bt\u00ed o tom, k \u010demu je na sv\u011bt\u011b n\u00e1rodn\u00ed park. Ka\u017ed\u00fd n\u00e1rodn\u00ed park m\u00e1 m\u00edsta, kv\u016fli nim\u017e byl z\u0159\u00edzen, kde se p\u0159\u00edroda nech\u00e1, a\u0165 uk\u00e1\u017ee, co um\u00ed. A pak m\u00e1 m\u00edsta n\u00e1razn\u00edkov\u00e1, tzv.pufra\u010dn\u00ed, je\u017e maj\u00ed zajistit, aby divadlo p\u0159\u00edrody, odehr\u00e1vaj\u00edc\u00ed se v jeho j\u00e1dru, neohrozilo okol\u00ed (od toho jsou 2. \u010di 3. z\u00f3ny). M\u00edt n\u00e1rodn\u00ed park, ale nem\u00edt v n\u011bm souvisl\u00e9, nerozt\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u011bn\u00e9 j\u00e1dro, kde se p\u0159\u00edroda nech\u00e1 na pokoji, kde se net\u011b\u017e\u00ed d\u0159evo, ale kde najdeme informace a estetick\u00fd z\u00e1\u017eitek, to je stejn\u00e1 blbost jako m\u00edt N\u00e1rodn\u00ed divadlo a nem\u00edt jevi\u0161t\u011b. Nebo ho m\u00edt (to je druh\u00fd, ekologick\u00fd extr\u00e9m), ale utajen\u00e9 pro ve\u0159ejnost, jen pro vybran\u00e9 herce, za nimi\u017e se zat\u00e1hne zelen\u00e1 opona. A div\u00e1k (kter\u00fd to v\u0161echno plat\u00ed) nic nevid\u00ed. To, \u017ee Str\u00e1sk\u00fd nedok\u00e1\u017ee rozli\u0161it j\u00e1drov\u00e1 \u00fazem\u00ed (p\u0159irozen\u00e9 podm\u00e1\u010den\u00e9 smr\u010diny v 7. a 8. vegeta\u010dn\u00edm stupni, kam spad\u00e1 i okol\u00ed Ztracen\u00e9 slat\u011b) a vede teatr\u00e1ln\u00ed \u00fader proti k\u016frovci pr\u00e1v\u011b tam, a ne v t\u011bch n\u00e1razn\u00edkov\u00fdch z\u00f3n\u00e1ch v um\u011ble vys\u00e1zen\u00fdch porostech (tam naopak k\u016frovce mno\u017e\u00ed, nap\u0159\u00edklad drastick\u00fdm sn\u00ed\u017een\u00edm feromonov\u00fdch lapa\u010d\u016f, p\u0159ib\u00edjen\u00edm s\u00e1\u010dk\u016f na zdrav\u00e9 stromy), pova\u017euji za t\u0159et\u00ed z\u00e1va\u017en\u00e9 mana\u017eersk\u00e9 selh\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Pova\u017eujete n\u011bkter\u00fd z argument\u016f protistrany sporu za rozumn\u00fd?<\/p>\n

Ladislav<\/strong> Jakl<\/strong>: Ano. Kdy\u017e \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed lesn\u00edm d\u011bln\u00edk\u016fm: Vezm\u011bte tu pilu rad\u011bji na m\u011b.<\/p>\n

Vladim\u00edr Just:<\/strong> Pokud Jan Str\u00e1sk\u00fd (starosta Modravy Schubert, sen\u00e1to\u0159i Jirsa, Zimola \u010di publicista Holub) prosazovali oproti n\u011bkter\u00fdm ekologick\u00fdm fundamentalist\u016fm maxim\u00e1ln\u00ed otev\u0159en\u00ed \u0160umavy turist\u016fm, dr\u017eel jsem jim palce. A dr\u017eel bych dote\u010f. Domn\u00edv\u00e1m se, \u017ee kdyby z B\u0159ezn\u00edku na bavorsk\u00fd Luzn\u00fd mohl j\u00edt ka\u017ed\u00fd p\u011b\u0161ky, vydalo by to za sto ekologick\u00fdch konferenc\u00ed o biodiverzit\u011b a regenera\u010dn\u00ed schopnosti p\u0159\u00edrody. Vid\u011bt to z d\u00e1lky (nebo z vrtuln\u00edku) je d\u011bs, vid\u011bt to „zdola“, p\u0159i ch\u016fzi, je z\u00e1zrak. Tamn\u00ed les je zachr\u00e1n\u011bn, pod uschl\u00fdm stromov\u00fdm patrem vyrostla nov\u00e1 generace. V Bavorsku nechali na 75 procentech star\u00e9ho parku p\u0159\u00edrodu na pokoji, a b\u011b\u017ete se pod\u00edvat, co dovede: uvid\u00edte mili\u00f3ny zelen\u00fdch (\u010dtvrt-, p\u016fl-, i \u010dty\u0159metrov\u00fdch) argument\u016f pro bezz\u00e1sahovost v j\u00e1dru poho\u0159\u00ed \u2013 bez ohledu na hranice. Str\u00e1sk\u00fd se sympaticky anga\u017eoval pro turistick\u00e9 „otev\u0159en\u00ed \u0160umavy“. Jakmile se stal \u0161\u00e9fem, \u0160umavu uzav\u0159el a na lidi vol\u00e1 policii. To pova\u017euji za jeho \u010dtvrt\u00e9 mana\u017eersk\u00e9 selh\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/p>\n

\u0160umava dnes p\u0159ipom\u00edn\u00e1 sp\u00ed\u0161e ne\u017e \u017eiv\u00e9 hory skanzen, ve kter\u00e9m je jak\u00e1koli lidsk\u00e1 aktivita p\u0159\u00edsn\u011b regulov\u00e1na. Je to podle v\u00e1s spr\u00e1vn\u00e1 my\u0161lenka?<\/p>\n

Ladislav<\/strong> Jakl<\/strong>: S dojet\u00edm kouk\u00e1m na sto let star\u00e9 fotografie m\u00edst, kter\u00e1 na \u0160umav\u011b dob\u0159e zn\u00e1m v dne\u0161n\u00ed podob\u011b. V\u0161ude se \u017eilo, hospoda\u0159ilo. Dnes je v\u0161e v rozvalu, lidsk\u00e9 d\u00edlo pustne, na\u0161i p\u0159edkov\u00e9 by n\u00e1m dali na zadek. I p\u0159edkov\u00e9 pana Schwarzenberga, kter\u00fd se nechal sly\u0161et, \u017ee to jeho rodina ty dnes k\u00e1cen\u00e9 stromy zasadila. M\u011bl by se jich p\u0159es n\u011bjak\u00e9 m\u00e9dium zeptat, jestli se jim l\u00edb\u00ed, \u017ee jejich d\u00edlo kdosi m\u011bn\u00ed na pustinu.<\/p>\n

Vladim\u00edr Just:<\/strong> B\u011b\u017ete se pod\u00edvat na hr\u016fzu, je\u017e vyrostla na Filipov\u011b Huti zleva p\u0159i cest\u011b na \u010cernohorsk\u00fd mo\u010d\u00e1l, tak \u0159\u00edkaj\u00edc starostovi Schubertovi z Modravy za humny! Stavebn\u00edk zcela ignoroval v\u0161echny z\u00e1kazy, projekt sice na pap\u00ed\u0159e podle nich upravil, ale stav\u00ed klidn\u011b sv\u00e9 p\u0159\u00ed\u0161ern\u00e9 megalomansk\u00e9 monstrum podle toho zak\u00e1zan\u00e9ho. A \u010dlov\u011bka, kter\u00fd na to v parku upozor\u0148oval, alespo\u0148 podle \u010cT2, Str\u00e1sk\u00fd z parku vyhodil. Je-li to pravda, pak jde o p\u00e1t\u00e9 z\u00e1va\u017en\u00e9 mana\u017eersk\u00e9 selh\u00e1n\u00ed \u0159editele (dokonce s n\u00e1znakem podez\u0159en\u00ed z korupce).<\/p>\n

Co si mysl\u00edte o aktivistech, kte\u0159\u00ed se p\u0159ipout\u00e1vaj\u00ed k napaden\u00fdm strom\u016fm, aby zabr\u00e1nili jejich k\u00e1cen\u00ed?<\/p>\n

Ladislav<\/strong> Jakl<\/strong>: \u017de nemaj\u00ed cit pro v\u00e1hu probl\u00e9m\u016f v lidsk\u00e9m \u017eivot\u011b. Za v\u00fdznamn\u00e9 pova\u017euj\u00ed to, co vid\u00ed v televizi, ne skute\u010dn\u00e9 starosti lid\u00ed. A metoda blok\u00e1dy jako protest? Poj\u010fme blokovat bloka\u0159e. My si mysl\u00edme, \u017ee to oni poru\u0161uj\u00ed z\u00e1kony, tak jako oni si mysl\u00ed, \u017ee je poru\u0161uje park.<\/p>\n

Vladim\u00edr Just:<\/strong> V\u00e1\u017e\u00edm si jich, proto\u017ee vid\u00ed d\u00e1l ne\u017e na \u0161pi\u010dku nosu a nejde jim \u2013 jako druh\u00e9 stran\u011b \u2013 o osobn\u00ed prosp\u011bch, jsou to p\u0159\u00edrodov\u011bdci, biologov\u00e9, dokumentarist\u00e9, studenti humanitn\u00edch v\u011bd, ba i lesn\u00edci. A m\u016f\u017eete o nich \u0159\u00edci v\u0161echno jin\u00e9, ne\u017e \u017ee by pat\u0159ili mezi ty (jako Str\u00e1sk\u00fd, M\u00e1nek, Jirsa, Schubert \u010di Zeman), koho lze by\u0165 vzd\u00e1len\u011b podez\u00edrat ze zi\u0161tn\u00fdch z\u00e1jm\u016f, za nimi\u017e stoj\u00ed mocn\u00ed \u0161umav\u0161t\u00ed kmot\u0159i. Jen mal\u00e1 oprava: obl\u00edben\u00e1 medi\u00e1ln\u00ed n\u00e1lepka „aktivista“ pat\u0159\u00ed daleko sp\u00ed\u0161e na \u010delo Str\u00e1sk\u00e9mu, kter\u00fd aktivisticky (i za pomoci policie) potla\u010duje a ignoruje n\u00e1zor 95 procent na\u0161\u00ed p\u0159\u00edrodov\u011bdeck\u00e9 obce, od v\u0161ech relevantn\u00edch \u00fastav\u016f Karlovy \u010di Jiho\u010desk\u00e9 univerzity a\u017e po vrcholn\u00e9 p\u0159edstavitele AV \u010cR. Aktivista je fanatik se skeln\u00fdm pohledem, kter\u00fd sve\u0159ep\u011b prosazuje svou a nesly\u0161\u00ed protin\u00e1zor, a to je dnes daleko v\u00edc Str\u00e1sk\u00fd ne\u017e Bl\u00e1ha \u010di Vla\u0161\u00edn.<\/p>\n

P\u0159ipoutal byste se vy osobn\u011b k n\u011b\u010demu, co si mysl\u00edte, \u017ee stoj\u00ed za z\u00e1chranu?<\/p>\n

Ladislav<\/strong> Jakl<\/strong>: Ur\u010dit\u011b. Ke sv\u00e9mu d\u00edt\u011bti, k partnerce, ke korunova\u010dn\u00edm klenot\u016fm. Jen nev\u00edm, jestli bych jim t\u00edm prosp\u011bl.<\/p>\n

Vladim\u00edr Just:<\/strong> M\u011bl bych p\u0159edeslat, \u017ee jsem od p\u0159\u00edznivc\u016f k\u00e1cen\u00ed m\u011bl v minulosti dvakr\u00e1t kompletn\u011b vytlu\u010den\u00e1 okna na sv\u00e9 \u0161umavsk\u00e9 chalup\u011b, co\u017e zaznamenala i \u010cT a vyvolalo to protesty mezin\u00e1rodn\u00edho PEN klubu. Mo\u017en\u00e1 u\u017e p\u00e1prdovat\u00edm nebo klausovat\u00edm, ale nepova\u017euji ve sv\u00fdch p\u011bta\u0161edes\u00e1ti za d\u016fstojn\u00e9 pro profesora Karlovy univerzity, aby se nechal jako lump honit po lese patn\u00e1cti zdatn\u00fdmi policisty, ji\u017e se na n\u011bj vrhnou, sraz\u00ed ho k zemi, zkrout\u00ed mu ruce za z\u00e1da, nasad\u00ed pouta jako zlo\u010dinci a odn\u00e1\u0161ej\u00ed ho n\u011bkam na vy\u0161et\u0159ovnu, kde pak zb\u016fhdarma str\u00e1v\u00ed \u0161est hodin p\u0159iblbl\u00fdm v\u00fdslechem. Pova\u017euji za daleko u\u017eite\u010dn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed b\u00fdt u toho jako sv\u011bdek, monitorovat na m\u00edst\u011b situaci a nat\u00e1\u010det ten trapn\u00fd hon na lidi (kter\u00fd jsem za\u017eil naposled p\u0159i Palachov\u011b t\u00fddnu na V\u00e1clav\u00e1ku) na kameru vyp\u016fj\u010denou od filmov\u00e9 dokumentaristky. Tu jsem zanechal jako p\u0159edm\u011bt doli\u010dn\u00fd jednoho takov\u00e9ho brut\u00e1ln\u00edho z\u00e1sahu proti osnovatel\u016fm blok\u00e1dy. To, \u017ee ten hon na lidi rozpoutal, pova\u017euji za dal\u0161\u00ed, ji\u017e \u0161est\u00e9 z\u00e1va\u017en\u00e9 mana\u017eersk\u00e9 selh\u00e1n\u00ed Jana Str\u00e1sk\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n

Jak si vysv\u011btlujete, \u017ee \u0161umavsk\u00e9 lesy na bavorsk\u00e9 stran\u011b jsou v daleko lep\u0161\u00edm stavu ne\u017e ty \u010desk\u00e9?<\/p>\n

Ladislav<\/strong> Jakl<\/strong>: To je na del\u0161\u00ed v\u00fdklad. Nejen\u017ee tam nikdo neprov\u00e1d\u00ed divok\u00fd experiment s vytv\u00e1\u0159en\u00edm pralesa na m\u00edst\u011b kulturn\u00edho lesa. P\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm jde kv\u016fli jin\u00e9 orientaci svah\u016f a strm\u011bj\u0161\u00ed konfiguraci ter\u00e9nu o jin\u00fd typ vegetace.<\/p>\n

Vladim\u00edr Just:<\/strong> V Bavorsku se nem\u011bn\u00ed koncepce ochrany p\u0159\u00edrody po ka\u017ed\u00fdch nov\u00fdch volb\u00e1ch a s ka\u017ed\u00fdm nov\u00fdm ministrem. Maj\u00ed tam b\u011bhem t\u0159\u00ed desetilet\u00ed teprve t\u0159et\u00edho \u0159editele (u n\u00e1s m\u00e1me b\u011bhem dvaceti let osm\u00e9ho!). U\u017e p\u0159es t\u0159i desetilet\u00ed z\u016fst\u00e1v\u00e1 tamn\u00ed strategie nem\u011bnn\u00e1 \u2013 a respektuj\u00edc\u00ed n\u00e1zor v\u011bdc\u016f (jimi\u017e Str\u00e1sk\u00fd pohrd\u00e1). Kdy\u017e tam byl p\u0159ed v\u00edce ne\u017e deseti lety premi\u00e9rem Stoiber, a to nebyl v\u011bru \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd ekolog, zhrozil se p\u0159i pohledu z d\u00e1lky na uschl\u00e9 stromy jako Zeman \u010di Klaus, ale kdy\u017e ho provedli zelen\u00fdm podrostem, dal tamn\u00ed divo\u010din\u011b zelenou. A dnes je to jeden z nejnav\u0161t\u011bvovan\u011bj\u0161\u00edch park\u016f v N\u011bmecku. Nev\u011b\u0159te dv\u011bma b\u00e1chork\u00e1m: \u017ee uschl\u00fd les (a pod n\u00edm divok\u00e1 dynamika p\u0159\u00edrody) odrazuje turisty \u2013 tvrd\u00e1 data o n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bvnosti obou park\u016f mluv\u00ed o opaku. A druh\u00fd obl\u00edben\u00fd blud: v Bavorsku maj\u00ed pr\u00fd jin\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edrodn\u00ed podm\u00ednky. To jist\u011b maj\u00ed (by\u0165 jen trochu: hranice na dotyku obou park\u016f se tu proklat\u011b klikat\u00ed), ale stokr\u00e1t jin\u0161\u00ed podm\u00ednky maj\u00ed t\u0159eba v Berchtesgadenu (Alpy) nebo v Meklenbursku (n\u00ed\u017eina), a p\u0159esto tam v\u0161ude \u2013 jako ve zb\u00fdvaj\u00edc\u00edch n\u00e1rodn\u00edch parc\u00edch Evropy \u2013 dodr\u017euj\u00ed z\u00e1kladn\u00ed diferenciaci: bezz\u00e1sahov\u00e9 j\u00e1dro, z\u00e1sahov\u00e9 okraje. To, \u017ee tuto diferenciaci nerespektuje, pova\u017euji za v\u016fbec nejz\u00e1va\u017en\u011bj\u0161\u00ed mana\u017eersk\u00e9 selh\u00e1n\u00ed Jana Str\u00e1sk\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n

Jak hodnot\u00edte v\u00fdrok prezidenta Klause, kter\u00fd se zelen\u00fdch aktivist\u016f boj\u00ed v\u00edce ne\u017e al-K\u00e1’idy?<\/p>\n

Ladislav<\/strong> Jakl<\/strong>: Na teror zelen\u00fdch extremist\u016f dopl\u00e1c\u00edme ka\u017ed\u00fd den u\u017e hodn\u011b let. Jejich kampa\u0148 proti \u010dlov\u011bku a jeho svobodn\u00e9mu \u017eivotu odn\u00e1\u0161\u00edme na ka\u017ed\u00e9m kroku \u2013 v cen\u00e1ch, v tis\u00edc\u00edch tup\u00fdch omezen\u00ed.
\nPo sv\u011bt\u011b zcela jist\u011b v\u00edce lid\u00ed zahubila zelen\u00e1 politika, zav\u00e1d\u011bj\u00edc\u00ed biopaliva na \u00fakor potravin, ne\u017e v\u0161ichni terorist\u00e9 sv\u011bta dohromady.<\/p>\n

Vladim\u00edr Just:<\/strong> Podobn\u00e9 idiotsk\u00e9 v\u00fdroky mohou naplnit p\u0159\u00edslov\u00ed Kdo seje v\u00edtr, skl\u00edz\u00ed bou\u0159i. Jejich nep\u0159\u00edm\u00fdm d\u016fsledkem jsou rozbit\u00e1 okna, poni\u010den\u00e9 v\u00fdfuky a karos\u00e9rie, ba dokonce i z\u00e1ke\u0159n\u011b vypu\u0161t\u011bn\u00e1 brzdov\u00e1 kapalina u aut \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edk\u016f blok\u00e1dy. T\u00edm to teprve za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1. Kde to skon\u010d\u00ed?<\/p>\n

Pova\u017eujete spor o zp\u016fsob, jak\u00fdm \u0159e\u0161it k\u016frovcovou kalamitu, za odborn\u00fd, nebo politick\u00fd?<\/p>\n

Ladislav<\/strong> Jakl<\/strong>: Pan Schwarzenberg by pr\u00fd podpo\u0159il diskusi v\u0161ech odborn\u00edk\u016f u kulat\u00e9ho stolu. Jist\u011b podobnou v\u011bc zavede i v zahrani\u010dn\u00ed politice. U\u017e nebude rozhodovat ministerstvo, ale n\u00e1zory odborn\u00edk\u016f z r\u016fzn\u00fdch \u00fastav\u016f pro mezin\u00e1rodn\u00ed politiku. Probl\u00e9m \u0160umavy je probl\u00e9mem spole\u010densk\u00fdm. A k \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed spole\u010densk\u00fdch probl\u00e9m\u016f jsou t\u0159eba jin\u00e9 n\u00e1stroje ne\u017e ke zkoum\u00e1n\u00ed rychlosti \u0161\u00ed\u0159en\u00ed pl\u00edsn\u00ed v podlo\u017e\u00ed smrkov\u00fdch porost\u016f. Jakou odbornost na \u0160umav\u011b pou\u017e\u00edt p\u0159i \u00favaze o tom, jak tam \u017eij\u00ed lid\u00e9 omezovan\u00ed na ka\u017ed\u00e9m kroku zelen\u00fdmi extremisty z pra\u017esk\u00fdch kav\u00e1ren?<\/p>\n

Vladim\u00edr Just:<\/strong> Op\u011bt jste bohu\u017eel nedodal „v n\u00e1rodn\u00edm parku“. Hovo\u0159it o kalamit\u011b v NP je n\u011bco zcela jin\u00e9ho ne\u017e v hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9m lese: tam je k\u016frovec \u0161k\u016fdcem, v NP je porodn\u00edkem \u2013 a kalamity metodou p\u0159irozen\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edrodn\u00ed obnovy. Ale k va\u0161\u00ed ot\u00e1zce \u2013 jde u\u017e, \u017eel, o spor politick\u00fd. I dne\u0161n\u00ed aktivistick\u00fd \u0161\u00e9f byl dosazen jako tvor politick\u00fd (z v\u016fle Hradu), nikoliv odborn\u00fd. Kdyby \u0161lo o spor odborn\u00fd, \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1 blok\u00e1da by nebyla, park by z\u016fstal parkem, proto\u017ee drtiv\u00e1 argumenta\u010dn\u00ed p\u0159evaha je na stran\u011b p\u0159\u00edrodov\u011bdc\u016f. Je-li odborn\u00e1 lesnick\u00e1 ve\u0159ejnost rozpolcen\u00e1, pak ta p\u0159\u00edrodov\u011bdn\u00e1 je z 95\u201399 procent v n\u00e1zoru na \u0160umavu jednotn\u00e1 jako snad v ni\u010dem jin\u00e9m.<\/p>\n

LADISLAV<\/strong> JAKL<\/strong>, tajemn\u00edk prezidenta republiky, publicista a hudebn\u00edk<\/p>\n

PROF. PhDr. VLADIM\u00cdR JUST, CSC.<\/strong>, teatrolog a medi\u00e1ln\u00ed kritik, p\u0159edn\u00e1\u0161\u00ed na FF UK<\/p>\n

JAKL:“<\/strong>NA TEROR ZELEN\u00ddCH EXTREMIST\u016e DOPL\u00c1C\u00cdME KA\u017dD\u00dd DEN.“
\nJUST:<\/strong> „V BAVORSKU SE NEM\u011aN\u00cd OCHRANA P\u0158\u00cdRODY PO KA\u017dD\u00ddCH VOLB\u00c1CH.“<\/p>\n

Zdroj:\u00a0Reflex Datum:\u00a011.08.2011 <\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

LADISLAV JAKL A VLADIM\u00cdR JUST \u2013 zjednodu\u0161en\u011b \u0159e\u010deno \u2013 pat\u0159\u00ed k opa\u010dn\u00fdm t\u00e1bor\u016fm p\u0159i prob\u00edhaj\u00edc\u00edm sporu o k\u016frovce na \u0160umav\u011b. Z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na ka\u017ed\u00e9m z n\u00e1s, kter\u00fd ze sv\u011bt\u016f obou mu\u017e\u016f je n\u00e1m bli\u017e\u0161\u00ed: sv\u011bt zast\u00e1nce vn\u00edm\u00e1n\u00ed \u0160umavy jako m\u00edsta, na n\u011bm\u017e se m\u00e1 hospoda\u0159it a \u017e\u00edt. Nebo sv\u011bt \u010dlov\u011bka, kter\u00fd raz\u00ed heslo A\u0165 si p\u0159\u00edroda […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1138","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-rozhovory"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1138","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1138"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1138\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1139,"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1138\/revisions\/1139"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1138"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1138"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1138"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}