{"id":1342,"date":"2011-10-26T15:02:20","date_gmt":"2011-10-26T14:02:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/?p=1342"},"modified":"2011-10-26T15:08:12","modified_gmt":"2011-10-26T14:08:12","slug":"ladislav-jakl-v-radiozurnalu-k-dalsimu-kolu-batoriady","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/?p=1342","title":{"rendered":"Ladislav Jakl v Radio\u017eurn\u00e1lu k dal\u0161\u00edmu kolu b\u00e1tori\u00e1dy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Zdroj:\u00a0Radio\u017eurn\u00e1l, relace:\u00a0Stalo se dnes, n\u00e1zev:\u00a0Ladislav B\u00e1tora, ozn\u00e1mil, \u017ee slo\u017e\u00ed funkci poradce ministra a postupn\u011b opust\u00ed i ministerstvo<\/p>\n<p>Datum:\u00a014.10.2011 Moder\u00e1tor:\u00a0Martin Doraz\u00edn<\/p>\n<p>Host\u00e9:\u00a0Petr Gazd\u00edk, Ladislav Jakl<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Moder\u00e1tor (Martin Doraz\u00edn):<br \/>\nNo a te\u010f k dal\u0161\u00edmu zaj\u00edmav\u00e9mu odchodu ze sc\u00e9ny. Kontroverzn\u00ed \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edk Ministerstva \u0161kolstv\u00ed, Ladislav B\u00e1tora, ozn\u00e1mil, \u017ee slo\u017e\u00ed funkci poradce ministra a postupn\u011b opust\u00ed i ministerstvo. O jeho odchod dlouho usilovala strana TOP 09 no a u telefonu by te\u010f m\u011bl b\u00fdt \u0161\u00e9f jejich poslanc\u016f, Petr Gazd\u00edk, hezk\u00fd ve\u010der.<\/p>\n<p>Host (Petr Gazd\u00edk, \u0161\u00e9f poslanc\u016f TOP 09):<br \/>\nHezk\u00fd obr\u00fd ve\u010der v\u00e1m i poslucha\u010d\u016fm.<\/p>\n<p>Moder\u00e1tor (Martin Doraz\u00edn):<br \/>\nTak jak vy tedy hodnot\u00edte odchod Ladislava B\u00e1tory, na co\u017e jste dlouho upozor\u0148ovali?<\/p>\n<p>Host (Petr Gazd\u00edk, \u0161\u00e9f poslanc\u016f TOP 09):<br \/>\nMy samoz\u0159ejm\u011b tento odchod v\u00edt\u00e1me, pro n\u00e1s dnes vlastn\u011b pravda vyplula na povrch, to co d\u0159\u00edve v\u0161ichni, krom\u011b ministra \u0161kolstv\u00ed, v\u011bd\u011bli a to je to, \u017ee pan B\u00e1tora se chce v\u011bnovat politice a politick\u00e9mu aktivismu, co\u017e jako \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edk st\u00e1tn\u00ed spr\u00e1vy, zvl\u00e1\u0161\u0165 na Ministerstvu \u0161kolstv\u00ed celkem nep\u0159\u00edpustn\u00e9, zvl\u00e1\u0161t\u011b kdy\u017e jde o souvislost s extr\u00e9mistick\u00fdmi silami. Tak to se dnes prok\u00e1zalo. A jedin\u00fd, kdo to netu\u0161il, byl bohu\u017eel ministr \u0161kolstv\u00ed Josef Dobe\u0161 a my jsme r\u00e1di, \u017ee dnes jaksi pan B\u00e1tora ozn\u00e1mil, \u017ee odch\u00e1z\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>Moder\u00e1tor (Martin Doraz\u00edn):<br \/>\nVy jste \u0159ekl, \u017ee se prok\u00e1zalo dnes, co se dnes prok\u00e1zalo, podle v\u00e1s?<\/p>\n<p>Host (Petr Gazd\u00edk, \u0161\u00e9f poslanc\u016f TOP 09):<br \/>\nProk\u00e1zalo se dnes, \u017ee pan B\u00e1tora si svoj\u00ed funkci subaltern\u00edho st\u00e1tn\u00edho \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edka pletl s politick\u00fdm aktivismem. On dnes jasn\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem \u0159ekl, \u017ee nen\u00ed schopen dodr\u017eet to ml\u010den\u00ed, kter\u00e9 Josefu Dobe\u0161ovi sl\u00edbil, \u017ee chce b\u00fdt sly\u0161et a \u017ee se chce v\u011bnovat politick\u00e9 kari\u00e9\u0159e.<\/p>\n<p>Moder\u00e1tor (Martin Doraz\u00edn):<br \/>\nKam tedy podle v\u00e1s zam\u00ed\u0159\u00ed ve sv\u00e9 politick\u00e9 kari\u00e9\u0159e?<\/p>\n<p>Host (Petr Gazd\u00edk, \u0161\u00e9f poslanc\u016f TOP 09):<br \/>\nTo j\u00e1 skute\u010dn\u011b netu\u0161\u00edm a up\u0159\u00edmn\u011b \u0159e\u010deno, je mi to jedno. Pro m\u011b, pro n\u00e1s byl ten z\u00e1sadn\u00ed probl\u00e9m v tom, \u017ee politick\u00e9 s\u00edly, spojen\u00e9 s extr\u00e9mismem, by nem\u011bly b\u00fdt \u00fa\u010dastny ve st\u00e1tn\u00ed spr\u00e1v\u011b. To je pro n\u00e1s z\u00e1sadn\u00ed v\u011bc, v\u016f\u010di kter\u00e9 jsme se tak\u00e9 z\u00e1sadn\u00edm zp\u016fsobem vymezili.<\/p>\n<p>Moder\u00e1tor (Martin Doraz\u00edn):<br \/>\nN\u011bkter\u00fdm politik\u016fm v\u010detn\u011b TOP 09 tedy z t\u00e9to strany nap\u0159\u00edklad vad\u00ed to, \u017ee B\u00e1tora uspo\u0159\u00e1dal na z\u00e1v\u011br sv\u00e9ho p\u016fsoben\u00ed na ministerstvu tiskovou konferenci, nen\u00ed tato kritika u\u017e p\u0159ehnan\u00e1? Jak jinak se m\u011bl ve\u0159ejn\u011b vyj\u00e1d\u0159it, kdy\u017e to tak \u010dinil i p\u0159edt\u00edm?<\/p>\n<p>Host (Petr Gazd\u00edk, \u0161\u00e9f poslanc\u016f TOP 09):<br \/>\nJ\u00e1 bych tady to nekritizoval, to je samoz\u0159ejm\u011b jeho v\u011bc, jak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem, jak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem se ve\u0159ejn\u011b vyj\u00e1d\u0159\u00ed. A je v\u011bc novin\u00e1\u0159\u016f, jestli to ta tiskov\u00e1 konference pro n\u011b je nebo nen\u00ed zaj\u00edmav\u00e1. Na druhou stranu je to uk\u00e1zka toho, \u017ee pan B\u00e1tora rozhodn\u011b nen\u00ed politick\u00fdm amat\u00e9rem a \u010dinil tak i ve funkci subaltern\u00edho st\u00e1tn\u00edho \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edka.<\/p>\n<p>Moder\u00e1tor (Martin Doraz\u00edn):<br \/>\nJ\u00e1 v\u00e1m d\u011bkuji, no a u telefonu v\u00edt\u00e1m tak\u00e9 Ladislava Jakla, poradce prezidenta \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky, dobr\u00fd ve\u010der.<\/p>\n<p>Host (Ladislav Jakl, poradce prezidenta \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky):<br \/>\nDobr\u00fd ve\u010der.<\/p>\n<p>Moder\u00e1tor (Martin Doraz\u00edn):<br \/>\nVy jste te\u010f poslouchal tento n\u00e1\u0161 rozhovor, tedy zn\u00e1te stanovisko TOP 09, jak\u00e9 je to va\u0161e stanovisko k odchodu pana B\u00e1tory, kter\u00e9ho se, p\u0159ipomenu, prezident zastal v tom jeho sporu?<\/p>\n<p>Host (Ladislav Jakl, poradce prezidenta \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky):<br \/>\nAno, pan prezident se ho zastal, proto\u017ee \u00fatoky, kter\u00e9 vedly n\u011bkter\u00e9 politick\u00e9 strany, politici, m\u00e9dia, r\u016fzn\u00ed aktivist\u00e9, na pana B\u00e1toru byly neuv\u011b\u0159iteln\u011b sprost\u00e9, nepodlo\u017een\u00e9, l\u017eiv\u00e9. A pan B\u00e1tora to v\u016fbec nem\u011bl lehk\u00e9. On u\u017e na za\u010d\u00e1tku sv\u00e9ho p\u016fsoben\u00ed na Ministerstvu \u0161kolstv\u00ed p\u0159isl\u00edbil panu ministrovi, \u017ee se v\u016fbec nebude vyjad\u0159ovat k t\u011bmto v\u011bcem. A to znamen\u00e1, \u017ee t\u00edm ztratil mo\u017enost se jakkoliv br\u00e1nit. \u010clov\u011bk, kter\u00fd je vlastn\u011b dennodenn\u011b o\u010der\u0148ov\u00e1n, \u010dlov\u011bk o kter\u00e9m b\u00fdval\u00fd prezident prohl\u00e1s\u00ed, nebo b\u00fdval\u00fd prezident ho p\u0159irovn\u00e1 k Hitlerovi, kter\u00fd je neust\u00e1le obvi\u0148ov\u00e1n z nacismu, fa\u0161ismu, rasismu, antisemitismu, ani\u017e by proto za cel\u00fd sv\u016fj 60let\u00fd \u017eivot poskytl jedinou z\u00e1minku, tak on to m\u00e1 t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9, kdy\u017e nem\u016f\u017ee ani p\u00edpnout, nem\u016f\u017ee se v\u016fbec ozvat. A tud\u00ed\u017e j\u00e1 se panu B\u00e1torovi v\u016fbec nediv\u00edm, \u017ee u\u017e to nemohl vydr\u017eet a \u0159ekl, \u017ee za takovou cenu na ministerstvu nebude, za tomu to m\u00edsto nestoj\u00ed, aby se nemohl ozvat, aby se nemohl br\u00e1nit t\u011bm hnusn\u00fdm na\u0159\u010den\u00edm, kter\u00e1 ho pron\u00e1sledovala po mnoho m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f.<\/p>\n<p>Moder\u00e1tor (Martin Doraz\u00edn):<br \/>\nNo ale pova\u017eujete za vhodn\u00e9, aby se \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edk Ministerstva \u0161kolstv\u00ed nebo jak\u00e9hokoliv ministerstva st\u00fdkal s lidmi jako je pan Kopal, z t\u00e9 \u00fapln\u011b nejkrajn\u011b\u0161\u00ed \u010d\u00e1sti politick\u00e9ho spektra, ne-li za hranicemi slu\u0161n\u00e9 politiky?<\/p>\n<p>Host (Ladislav Jakl, poradce prezidenta \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky):<br \/>\nJ\u00e1 v\u016fbec nev\u00edm, kdo se s k\u00fdm st\u00fdk\u00e1 a je mi to docela jedno, pokud nikdo neporu\u0161\u00ed&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Moder\u00e1tor (Martin Doraz\u00edn):<br \/>\nTo jsou pr\u00e1v\u011b asi ty d\u016fkazy, kter\u00e9 se objevily.<\/p>\n<p>Host (Ladislav Jakl, poradce prezidenta \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky):<br \/>\n&#8230;z\u00e1kony, pokud n\u011bkdo, v\u00edte, pan B\u00e1tora je \u010dlov\u011bk ob\u010dansky aktivn\u00ed, m\u00e1 konzervativn\u00ed n\u00e1zory, inicioval hnut\u00ed, Akce Dost, a vyslovoval se proti nap\u0159\u00edklad Lisabonsk\u00e9 smlouv\u011b. A m\u016f\u017eu v\u00e1m \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee neexistuje \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk na sv\u011bt\u011b skoro, kter\u00fd by byl prolustrov\u00e1n do posledn\u00ed minuty, u kter\u00e9ho by se vy\u0161et\u0159ovalo, kde u koho kdy sed\u011bl p\u0159ed 15 lety, nev\u00edm, s k\u00fdm jste sed\u011bl u stolu t\u0159eba vy nebo pan Gazd\u00edk p\u0159ed 15 lety nebo 20 lety. Vy\u0161et\u0159uje se, podsouvaj\u00ed se mu l\u017eiv\u00e9 podvrhy, nap\u0159\u00edklad dneska Televize Nova cht\u011bla citovat z vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00ed pana B\u00e1tory a odcitovala pr\u00e1v\u011b jeden z podvrh\u016f, kter\u00e9 mu hacke\u0159i um\u00edstili na ten jeho facebookov\u00fd profil. Ve skute\u010dnosti jde o to, \u017ee velk\u00e1 \u010d\u00e1st na\u0161\u00ed politick\u00e9 a medi\u00e1ln\u00ed sc\u00e9ny nestrp\u00ed vedle sebe jin\u00fd hlas, hlas, kter\u00fd neodpov\u00edd\u00e1 tomu v\u011bt\u0161inov\u00e9mu levicov\u011b-liber\u00e1ln\u00edmu proudu. A sna\u017e\u00ed se ka\u017ed\u00e9ho, kdo se tomu vymyk\u00e1, zadupat do zem\u011b. A proto\u017ee na to nemaj\u00ed argumenty, tak pou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed nad\u00e1vky a k\u0159iv\u00e1 obvin\u011bn\u00ed. Pan B\u00e1tora rozhodn\u011b za cel\u00fd sv\u016fj \u017eivot neud\u011blal nic&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Moder\u00e1tor (Martin Doraz\u00edn):<br \/>\nTak j\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee ta sc\u00e9na je pom\u011brn\u011b hodn\u011b pestr\u00e1, \u017ee tam nejde o to, \u017ee bychom nesly\u0161eli jenom jeden hlas, kter\u00fd by, jak \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te, mluvil takto levicov\u011b-liber\u00e1ln\u00edm t\u00f3nem, jsou tam r\u016fzn\u00e9 t\u00f3ny.<\/p>\n<p>Host (Ladislav Jakl, poradce prezidenta \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky):<br \/>\nTo ano, ale kdy\u017e bylo Ministerstvo \u0161kolstv\u00ed v rukou extr\u00e9mistick\u00e9 Strany zelen\u00fdch, tak nikdo ani nep\u00edpnul. A bylo cel\u00e9 v rukou t\u00e9to podivn\u00e9 party, pan B\u00e1tora, pokud je zn\u00e1mo, tak nikdy ve sv\u00e9 funkci politicky, tuto funkci nijak nezneu\u017e\u00edval, nep\u016fsobil. A p\u0159esto\u017ee mluv\u00edme v\u0161ichni o apolitick\u00e9 st\u00e1tn\u00ed spr\u00e1v\u011b, tak pro\u010d m\u00e1 b\u00fdt n\u011bkdo k\u00e1drov\u00e1n za sv\u00e9 n\u00e1zory a za sv\u00e9 postoje. Snad je svobodn\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk i \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edk, a ne prost\u011b nesvobodn\u00e1 loutka. V\u00edme n\u011bco o dal\u0161\u00edch stovk\u00e1ch, stovk\u00e1ch a tis\u00edc\u00edch st\u00e1tn\u00edch zam\u011bstnanc\u016f, st\u00e1tn\u00edch \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edk\u016f, jak\u00e9 maj\u00ed n\u00e1zory, s k\u00fdm sed\u00e1vaj\u00ed n\u011bkde, ne, to nikoho nezaj\u00edm\u00e1. Pan B\u00e1tora mimochodem byl tak\u00e9 samoz\u0159ejm\u011b z\u00e1stupn\u00fd ter\u010d, proto\u017ee t\u00edm, \u017ee podpo\u0159il sv\u00e9ho \u010dasu prezidenta V\u00e1clava Klause v t\u00e9, v obdob\u00ed kolem podpisu, nepodpisu Lisabonsk\u00e9 smlouvy, ta funguval jako z\u00e1stupn\u00fd ter\u010d.<\/p>\n<p>Moder\u00e1tor (Martin Doraz\u00edn):<br \/>\nAno, k tomu sm\u011b\u0159uje moje posledn\u00ed ot\u00e1zka, pan B\u00e1tora te\u010f odch\u00e1z\u00ed, neobjev\u00ed se t\u0159eba v prezidentsk\u00e9 kancel\u00e1\u0159i?<\/p>\n<p>Host (Ladislav Jakl, poradce prezidenta \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky):<br \/>\nTo j\u00e1 v\u016fbec nev\u00edm, o tom jsem ani j\u00e1 nep\u0159em\u00fd\u0161lel, ani jsem o tom s nik\u00fdm nemluvil. Faktem je, \u017ee i to, co jsme sly\u0161eli te\u010f z pana Gazd\u00edka, j\u00e1 nev\u00edm, jestli jsme sly\u0161eli stejn\u00e1 vyj\u00e1d\u0159en\u00ed pana B\u00e1tory, pan B\u00e1tora v\u016fbec neavizoval \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd sv\u016fj odchod do politiky. On je naopak hlasit\u011b p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161lel o tom, pro\u010d se stal ter\u010dem tak zu\u0159iv\u00e9 kampan\u011b. A \u0159\u00edkal, \u017ee za prv\u00e9 kv\u016fli sv\u00fdm konzervativn\u00edm n\u00e1zor\u016fm, a za druh\u00e9 kv\u016fli spekulac\u00edm, kter\u00e9 mimochodem nemaj\u00ed \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd zat\u00edm racion\u00e1ln\u00ed podklad, \u017ee hodl\u00e1 vyv\u00edjet n\u011bjakou politickou aktivitu. J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm se chce br\u00e1nit a \u017ee ta dosavadn\u00ed role mu to znemo\u017e\u0148ovala.<\/p>\n<p>Moder\u00e1tor (Martin Doraz\u00edn):<br \/>\nAno, to u\u017e jsme sly\u0161eli. 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