{"id":3682,"date":"2013-03-07T10:33:56","date_gmt":"2013-03-07T09:33:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/?p=3682"},"modified":"2013-03-07T10:33:56","modified_gmt":"2013-03-07T09:33:56","slug":"jakl-o-11-zari-na-otazky-mladeho-studenta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/?p=3682","title":{"rendered":"Jakl o 11. z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed na ot\u00e1zky mlad\u00e9ho studenta"},"content":{"rendered":"

Nejprve bych se V\u00e1s cht\u011bl zeptat, jak jste vn\u00edmal tuto ud\u00e1lost v den, kdy se stala? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Velmi osobn\u011b. Jen n\u011bkolik m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f p\u0159ed trag\u00e9di\u00ed jsem se proch\u00e1zel ulicemi v bezprost\u0159edn\u00ed bl\u00edzkosti WTO a dokonce i na st\u0159e\u0161e jedn\u00e9 z t\u011bch dvou v\u011b\u017e\u00ed. Okam\u017eit\u011b po zachycen\u00ed zpr\u00e1vy o n\u00e1razu letadla do prvn\u00edho z nich jsem si pustil televizi s tak jsem vid\u011bl v \u017eiv\u00e9m p\u0159enosu i druh\u00fd n\u00e1raz. Kdy\u017e pak v\u011b\u017ee padaly, vyk\u0159ikl jsem jen: v\u017edy\u0165 tam jsou lid\u00e9! \u017div\u011b jsem si vybavoval m\u00edsta, kam to v\u0161e pad\u00e1: obchody, restaurace, m\u00edsta setk\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed…<\/p>\n

V\u011b\u0159\u00edte obecn\u011b medi\u00edm, nebo si informace ov\u011b\u0159ujete i z jin\u00fdch dostupn\u00fdch zdroj\u016f. Jak\u00e1 jsou podle V\u00e1s nejd\u016fv\u011bryhodn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed m\u00e9dia v \u010cR? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Ne, m\u00e9di\u00edm nev\u011b\u0159\u00edm t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 nic. \u017d\u00e1dn\u00fdm. Jist\u011b\u017ee si sna\u017e\u00edm v\u0161e si ov\u011b\u0159ovat i jinde. To v\u0161ak nen\u00ed v\u017edy mo\u017en\u00e9 ani nutn\u00e9. \u010casto zb\u00fdv\u00e1 i posta\u010d\u00ed uv\u011bdomit si u ka\u017ed\u00e9 informace: pro\u010d mi to \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed, pro\u010d nyn\u00ed, pro\u010d zrovna takto? U\u017e t\u00edm se \u010dlov\u011bk chr\u00e1n\u00ed od prvopl\u00e1nov\u00e9ho naskakov\u00e1n\u00ed na manipulace.<\/p>\n

Jak se stav\u00edte k ofici\u00e1ln\u00ed verzi v\u00fdkladu ud\u00e1lost\u00ed z 11. z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed? V\u011b\u0159\u00edte konspira\u010dn\u00ed teorii? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Nenab\u00edh\u00e1m na \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 sofistikovan\u00e9 konstrukce konspira\u010dn\u00edch teori\u00ed. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 si ale ned\u011bl\u00e1m iluze, \u017ee n\u00e1m zodpov\u011bdn\u00e1 m\u00edsta a m\u00e9dia \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed v\u0161echno a popravd\u011b. A i kdybych kdy takov\u00e9 iluze m\u011bl, ztratil bych je ihned pot\u00e9, co byla na z\u00e1klad\u011b ofici\u00e1ln\u00edho v\u00fdkladu okolnost\u00ed t\u00e9 katastrofy p\u0159ijata velmi sporn\u00e1 opat\u0159en\u00ed, pro kter\u00e1 byl \u00fatok z 11\/9 jen vhodnou z\u00e1minkou.<\/p>\n

Jak\u00fd je V\u00e1\u0161 n\u00e1zor na v\u00e1lku proti terorismu a schvalujete nasazen\u00ed arm\u00e1dy \u010cR v zahrani\u010dn\u00edch mis\u00edch? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Proti terorismu nelze v\u00e9st v\u00e1lku. U\u017e to je jen propagandistick\u00e1 le\u017e. Proti terorismu se lze chr\u00e1nit dodr\u017eov\u00e1n\u00edm bezpe\u010dnostn\u00edch pravidel a d\u016fsledn\u00fdm postihem pachatel\u016f. Nikdy se neuchr\u00e1n\u00edte zcela, jako nen\u00ed nikdy mo\u017en\u00e9 tot\u00e1ln\u011b vym\u00fdtit obecnou kriminalitu. Terorismus bohu\u017eel vzbudil za aktivn\u00ed pr\u00e1ce m\u00e9di\u00ed takov\u00e9 n\u00e1lady ve\u0159ejnosti, kter\u00e9 usnadnily podporu jinak velmi sporn\u00fdm zahrani\u010dn\u00edm vojensk\u00fdm akc\u00edm. Cel\u00e1 l\u00e9ta se v\u00e1l\u010d\u00ed pod z\u00e1minkou postihu terorismu v Ir\u00e1ku, kter\u00fd s terorismem nem\u011bl nic spole\u010dn\u00e9ho. V\u00e1l\u010d\u00ed se bez v\u00fdsledku l\u00e9ta proti afgh\u00e1nsk\u00e9mu Talibanu, jeho\u017e souvislost s terorem nen\u00ed o nic v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e u re\u017eim\u016f, se kter\u00fdmi Z\u00e1pad b\u011b\u017en\u011b spolupracuje. Nasazen\u00ed na\u0161\u00ed arm\u00e1dy v t\u011bchto mis\u00edch neodpov\u00edd\u00e1 na\u0161im z\u00e1jm\u016fm a j\u00e1 je neschvaluji. Jedin\u00fdm jejich d\u016fsledkem snad je, \u017ee si mocn\u00ed cen\u00ed na\u0161\u00ed podpory a snad ji n\u011bkdy vr\u00e1t\u00ed, a\u017e budeme pot\u0159ebovat. Ale kdov\u00ed..<\/p>\n

Souhlas\u00edte s uzav\u0159en\u00edm v\u011bznice na americk\u00e9 z\u00e1kladn\u011b Guantan\u00e1mo na Kub\u011b?<\/strong><\/p>\n

To je \u010dist\u011b vnitropolitick\u00e9 americk\u00e9 t\u00e9ma. Je to jejich \u00fazem\u00ed. Rozum\u00edm i re\u017eimu nakl\u00e1d\u00e1n\u00ed s podez\u0159el\u00fdmi z terorismu mimo vlastn\u00ed \u00fazem\u00ed a civiln\u00ed jurisdikci. Ale m\u00e1m obavu, jestli tyto metody neslou\u017e\u00ed i k postihu sp\u00ed\u0161e z\u00e1jmov\u00fdch oponent\u016f ne\u017e potenci\u00e1ln\u00edch terorist\u016f.<\/p>\n

Jak\u00fd je V\u00e1\u0161 n\u00e1zor na \u00fatok na Pentagon, kter\u00fd se tak\u00e9 ud\u00e1l 11. z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed, a na z\u0159\u00edcen\u00ed budovy \u010d.3 do kter\u00e9 nenarazilo \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 z letadel?<\/strong><\/p>\n

V\u00edm, \u017ee kolem toho je sporn\u00fdch moment\u016f mnoho. Asi mysl\u00edte budovu \u010d. 7. Jej\u00ed p\u00e1d vypad\u00e1 naprosto nepochopiteln\u011b. Ale stejn\u011b jako nev\u011b\u0159\u00edm mnoha ofici\u00e1ln\u00edm teori\u00edm, nejsem p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 ochoten snadno naskakovat ani na promy\u0161len\u00e9 alternativn\u00ed sc\u00e9n\u00e1\u0159e.<\/p>\n

Jste autor knihy \u201e11. z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed \u2013 10 let pot\u00e9\u201c. Mohl byste pros\u00edm stru\u010dn\u011b popsat co je obsahem t\u00e9to knihy?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Sp\u00ed\u0161e jeden ze spoluautor\u016f. T\u011bsn\u011b po 11. z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed 2001 uspo\u0159\u00e1dalo Centrum pro politiku a ekonomiku semin\u00e1\u0159 pr\u00e1v\u011b o dopadu t\u00e9to trag\u00e9die na na\u0161e my\u0161len\u00ed a politiku. Tehdy jsme se pot\u00fdkali s vlnou latentn\u00edho souhlasu s terorem zejm\u00e9na od t\u011bch, kter\u00fdm le\u017e\u00ed v \u017ealudku norm\u00e1ln\u00ed kapitalismus. O deset let pozd\u011bji centrum uspo\u0159\u00e1dalo semin\u00e1\u0159 na odobn\u00e9 t\u00e9ma, \u010di sp\u00ed\u0161e, jak jsme se z tehdej\u0161\u00edch ud\u00e1lost\u00ed pou\u010dili. A v\u00e1mi zm\u00edn\u011bn\u00e1 kniha je sborn\u00edkem text\u016f z onoho semin\u00e1\u0159e. J\u00e1 jsem tam v z\u00e1sad\u011b \u0159ekl, \u017ee jsem se nepou\u010dili, ale naopak svobodu poztr\u00e1celi. Kritizoval jsem i zn\u00e1m\u00fd Patriot Act a dal\u0161\u00ed svobodu omezuj\u00edc\u00ed opat\u0159en\u00ed, p\u0159ijat\u00e1 pod z\u00e1minkou prevence teoru.<\/p>\n

V t\u00e9to knize jste vyj\u00e1d\u0159il obavy o civilizaci po 11. z\u00e1\u0159\u00ed. M\u016f\u017eete to, pros\u00edm, okomentovat? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Asi je lep\u0161\u00ed si to p\u0159e\u010d\u00edst. Ale v z\u00e1sad\u011b jde o to, \u017ee terorismus je politicky a medi\u00e1ln\u011b zneu\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n k nastolen\u00ed n\u00e1lad, kter\u00e9 umo\u017enuj\u00ed, aby pro\u0161ly dal\u0161\u00ed a dal\u0161\u00ed regulace na\u0161\u00ed svobody, aby pro\u0161ly dal\u0161\u00ed a dal\u0161\u00ed kroky posiluj\u00edc\u00ed st\u00e1tn\u00ed moc.<\/p>\n

V jak\u00e9m sv\u011btle vid\u00edte americkou vl\u00e1du za G. W. Bushe? <\/strong><\/p>\n

V mnohem p\u0159\u00edzniv\u011bj\u0161\u00edm, ne\u017e jak\u00e9 na n\u011bj vrh\u00e1 medi\u00e1ln\u00ed mainstream. Ale v\u00fdjimkou je pr\u00e1v\u011b jeho p\u0159\u00edli\u0161n\u00ed ochota k intervencionismu.<\/p>\n

Zm\u011bnila se podle V\u00e1s n\u011bjak vl\u00e1da USA v zahrani\u010dn\u00ed politice po vstupu Baracka Obamy do prezidentsk\u00e9 funkce? Jestli ano, tak k hor\u0161\u00edmu, nebo k lep\u0161\u00edmu? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Zm\u011bnila. K hor\u0161\u00edmu.<\/p>\n

Jakou \u00falohu v cel\u00e9 ud\u00e1losti podle V\u00e1s m\u00e1 Us\u00e1ma Bin Ladin? Mysl\u00edte si, \u017ee byl opravdu zavra\u017ed\u011bn americk\u00fdmi jednotkami v roce 2011?<\/strong><\/p>\n

To asi byl, ale n\u011bjak po\u0159\u00e1d nev\u00edm pro\u010d. D\u00e1vno nic ne\u0159\u00eddil a byl jen duchovn\u00edm symbolem. Byl to star\u00fd p\u00e1n se slabou ochrankou. Mohla ho zatknout policejn\u00ed hl\u00eddka a norm\u00e1ln\u00e9 ho p\u0159edv\u00e9st, obvinit a usv\u011bd\u010dit. Toho se asi n\u011bkdo b\u00e1l.<\/p>\n

Zdrav\u00ed<\/p>\n

L. Jakl<\/p>\n

Je\u0161t\u011b jednou V\u00e1m mockr\u00e1t d\u011bkuji za odpov\u011bd. S p\u0159\u00e1n\u00edm hezk\u00e9ho dne. P .H .<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Nejprve bych se V\u00e1s cht\u011bl zeptat, jak jste vn\u00edmal tuto ud\u00e1lost v den, kdy se stala? Velmi osobn\u011b. Jen n\u011bkolik m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f p\u0159ed trag\u00e9di\u00ed jsem se proch\u00e1zel ulicemi v bezprost\u0159edn\u00ed bl\u00edzkosti WTO a dokonce i na st\u0159e\u0161e jedn\u00e9 z t\u011bch dvou v\u011b\u017e\u00ed. Okam\u017eit\u011b po zachycen\u00ed zpr\u00e1vy o n\u00e1razu letadla do prvn\u00edho z nich jsem si pustil […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3682","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-rozhovory"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3682","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3682"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3682\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3683,"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3682\/revisions\/3683"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3682"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3682"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ladislavjakl.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3682"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}